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| Eddie Marshan |
Eddie Marsan: 'There's no great mystery to acting'
Your new role in Sky 1's detective drama Thorne sees you playing a detective who seems embittered but also slightly infatuated by his professional partner, DI Thorne (David Morrissey). Do you have any close "bromances" in real life?
Yeah, I do. I don't have many – I'm not a great social animal. I have my family and I have my work and then I have three very close male friends and that's it. But we speak every day and it's very fulfilling. I was brought up in a house full of three older sisters, yet I do have intense, close friendships with male friends.
Were your sisters nice to you when you were growing up?
Both nice and nasty. When you're the youngest and the only boy, you get spoilt but you get told you're spoilt so you don't get to enjoy it very much. I was the only man in the house because my parents divorced and my dad moved away when I was 13.
You played a murderer in Pierrepoint, a snarling villain in Hancock and a psychologically unhinged driving instructor in Happy-Go-Lucky. Does the darkness of your characters ever stay with you?
It doesn't have enough time to stay with me because I'm always going on to the next thing. Major film stars tend to do a film and then have a couple of months off. I'm not a major film star, I'm a jobbing actor. By necessity, you have to let go. Having said that, I was paid to be angry for six months forHappy-Go-Lucky. That stayed with me. I had a few bad temper tantrums before my wife said to me: "I think you should get out of character."
Do you think actors make too much of a fuss about their work?
I see all these people talking about acting as a great spiritual thing. It's not. There's no great mystery to acting. It's a very simple thing to do but you have to work hard at it. It's about asking questions and using your imagination. The trick to acting is not to show off, it's to think the thoughts of the character. I was lucky because when I started acting, it was doing jobs above pubs. I learned to act in anonymity so by the time people saw me, I knew what I was doing. I was crap for years but no one saw me being crap. It's a trade you learn.
Apparently you like to listen to different kinds of music to get you into character?
Yeah, very much so. With Tughan [Marsan's role in Sky1's Thorne], it was Phil Collins and Spandau Ballet. My job is not to be Eddie Marsan. You pay to see me disappear.
What did you listen to for Happy-Go-Lucky?
He was into Depeche Mode. His hair, his jeans and jackets were all stuck in the mid-1980s because he was a man terrified of change.
Is it different from what you listen to on your own iPod?
Yeah. I listen to a lot of jazz. I'm a big Sinatra geek. I love Chet Baker.
You grew up on a council estate in east London, the son of a lorry driver and a teaching assistant. Did your family understand why you wanted to become an actor?
They didn't at first. A lot of it was due to financial reasons. I had a good job as a printer in the East End. Before the unions destroyed it, that job was very lucrative. But my family were very good about encouraging me.
What I love about the East End is that there's a great perseverance, determination and courage. What I dislike about it is that there is sometimes a celebration of ignorance. In my family, there was no celebration of ignorance. They'd come and see Chekhov or Shakespeare. I've got a sister who got a first in her degree. We don't sit around watching TV all the time. The depiction of working-class families on council estates you see in films and on television, the idea that people are somehow lazy spongers – that's not my recollection. David Cameron talks about "broken Britain". Well, I lived on a council estate for 25 years and if I misbehaved, someone knew about it. He's talking a load of crap.
There's an assumption, isn't there, that people who live on council estates should aspire to leave?
Yeah, people don't want to escape. The only reason they would is if you tell them there's something better to escape to. Don't get me wrong – I have a very middle-class life in Chiswick in west London but I don't think I'm happier here than in Bethnal Green.
So do you take exception to the supposed "social realism" of films such asFish Tank?
Certain moviemakers don't patronise the East End but there is – it may be well-meaning – a lot of desire to rescue people. With 90% of people on a council estate, you go into their house and it's spotless, the children are going to school, their sons are learning to be plumbers. Maybe 5% are dysfunctional – alcoholics and drug-takers. And then you get people saying: "Right, that's what we're going to make a film about." But if you look at the class that left Eton or Harrow, 10% of them aren't fine either. You've got to be careful you make a film about people, not about social issues.
How much of your professional success has been dependent on the quirkiness of your face?
Loads of it, because a lot of actors who are good-looking get people saying: "We love the way you look – you would have to be the lead part, but we've already got Brad Pitt." With me, the way I look, the money people don't care who plays that part. Now I try to hide my face most of the time, to be honest with you. I don't want to look like me on screen.
Are you recognised on the street?
Yeah, sometimes I do get people coming up to me. They're always very nice. I went swimming the other day and my wife was watching and she said: "You know, it's funny, it's when you've got no clothes on, no one recognises you." I said: "What are you saying? That I should do more love scenes?"
Do you wear Speedos?
No way. I'm a typical dad: long shorts.
